Ashley Koff: Hi. I’m dietician Ashley Koff here with Simply Natural Living. And today with Linda Kammins, Linda Kammins’ salon and products, and one of my—just such an expert on hair health, nutrition, and getting the look. You know, so having it look good and feel good. And to that point, I’m just going to be honest. You know, you’re young, and I think your hair almost always looks good. I mean, there are some abuses that can happen and we’ve got to take care of it, but as we age it seems like either the hairs thinning or we don’t like the color or changes have happened. So, help me out today for all of us that are aging, you know. What is help for hair health as we’re aging?

Linda Kammins: Well the thing that we can consider is the stress in our life, number one. You know, if we have a lot of stress in our life then there goes the thyroid, and there goes the adrenal glands and that really plays a havoc on our hair. So, I have many people who have real trouble with the thyroid and then the hairs coming out by the handfuls, so nutritionally they should check with you and get that thyroid in good shape. But when people come to see me, the thing that I always express to them, if you want to see your hair come in thicker, then we have to look at your hair like a garden. And we have to start right from the roots, you know, to make a difference. The attitude is really important. I see people who if they have a great attitude about taking care of their hair, the results happen so fast. And then people who have a poor attitude, the results aren’t happening. Or they’re in distress and they don’t believe some of my wild ideas.

Ashley Koff: So it’s mental. Right. Exactly.

Linda Kammins: There is the mental component.

Ashley Koff: What’s a wild idea? I know one.

Linda Kammins: Yeah. To not wash the hair—I mean that’s—that’s the number one. You know. So..

Ashley Koff: Okay. Tell me why that’s helpful.

Linda Kammins: Because it brings back the natural oils and in that sebum is a lot of microbial help for the hair. It actually nourishes the hair. We are like a plant. And the hair does get a lot from that. It makes a big difference.

Ashley Koff: So you say microbial help health, and then I hear the word sebum, and I think about oil, and I think about being out and having not washed my hair.

Linda Kammins: Yes.

Ashley Koff: And having oily, greasy hair. Or worse, quite honestly, like having acne

Linda Kammins: Yes.

Ashley Koff: Or breakouts in my hair.

Linda Kammins: Yes.

Ashley Koff: Or just you know, at the same time, also to—to sometimes prevent that, then like do I put a dry shampoo in there or do I put powder in there? What’s the story?

Linda Kammins: Well some people feel better with the dry shampoo but what everybody comes back to me with and it usually happens, if they get into the brushing process the removing all of the dead skin cells from the scalp, they’re polishing their hair with their natural sebum and so their hair isn’t getting dirty as fast.

Ashley Koff: So it’s not going to be as oily and gross when your..

Linda Kammins: No. No.

Ashley Koff: Is it going to smell?

Linda Kammins: I haven’t found that people’s hair smells unless they’re eating a very poor diet.

Ashley Koff: Okay.

Linda Kammins: You know so that’s going to be part of the issue is the way

Ashley Koff: Okay. So it’s your nutrition.

Linda Kammins: Sure, the way you eat.

Ashley Koff: So it’s interesting, you know we talk about dry brushing for the skin to have the skin be

Linda Kammins: Yes. Yes.

Ashley Koff: Healthier and you’re basically talking about that for the hair.

Linda Kammins: That’s right.

Ashley Koff: On that part.

Linda Kammins: That’s right.

Ashley Koff: Okay. Great. And so let’s talk for a second about hair coloring or dying. You know sometimes we do it, and we want to put highlights in it. I mean obviously there’s also the going grey or that piece. Help.

Linda Kammins: I know. In beauty school, many centuries ago, I was really really in a bad way with the chemical smells and anything that smells that bad cannot be good for you. I mean, it’s just too horrific. So I’ve taken a lot of alternative ways of coloring hair, in the beginning it was all using all kinds of natural dyes and hennas and such, but later when people wanted to color their grey and make it a more permanent thing, I had to come up with some knowledge about this. So chemistry’s always been interesting to me so I’ve taken that a bit further than your average hair dresser, you know. And I found that using enzymes as a developer with a tint makes a big difference. So that doesn’t break the cuticle. That keeps it looking like a virgin texture. And if you learn to work with that product, which I have, you can have some beautifully colored hair. And eventually my goal is to help people to reverse their grey and perhaps there’s a way.

Ashley Koff: Wow.

Linda Kammins: Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley Koff: It gets me so excited. So, just to recap on that part. I think we—you know we obviously need to take care of our hair when we’re younger, but as we age, we do want to look at our overall health status

Linda Kammins: Yes.

Ashley Koff: And it is going to be a factor. But your advice is to go with washing less, most of the time and then also to really steer clear of the harsh smelling chemical dyes if you can. So it’s the exposure to chemicals that can really be an issue.

Linda Kammins: Sure. And that’s even with the shampoo and the conditioners to be sure that it’s a really clean product makes a very big difference.

Ashley Koff: Fantastic. Thank you so much for your insight. We all as we age, we need that help with our—with our hair health. So thank you much for joining us here at Simply Natural Living. Your Health. Uncomplicated.